The Joe Rogan Experience
#2245 - Rod Blagojevich
Joe Rogan
So if you want a quality of outcome and you don't have a quality of effort, then you have tyranny. Because then you have people who are a bunch of energetic people who don't have a lot of ambition and they don't have any talent and they want to control people. And they don't like when people achieve a higher social status than them or economic status. They get angry. Why not me? Hmm.
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