The Joe Rogan Experience
#2245 - Rod Blagojevich
Rod Blagojevich
Yeah, but on a personal level, gentle, God-fearing, soft-hearted, what you're describing with the guys that you know. And a lot of the guys I knew from the boxing world in Chicago, a lot like that. The guys who had a lot more success than me because I was just the best. I was a middling guy who did it for one year. But I know exactly what you're saying.
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