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#2245 - Rod Blagojevich

6330.621 - 6343.166 Rod Blagojevich

I hurt less by forcing physical pain on myself by running 10 miles, for example, on my first Christmas day because it was so brutal emotionally that I had to be at this shithole place for Christmas. You know what I mean? Yeah. So what you're saying makes perfect sense to me. Yeah.

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