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The Joe Rogan Experience

#2245 - Rod Blagojevich

5892.65 - 5917.803 Joe Rogan

I got pushed around a little bit, like teenage boys do to each other, but I didn't like it. I didn't like it at all. And so I was like, look, I'm not growing. So it's like, what can I do to stop this fear that I have of conflict? I was terrified of conflict with kids because I did not know what to do. I had no training, no martial arts, and the only sport I'd ever played was baseball.

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