#2245 - Rod Blagojevich

4609.451 - 4636.625 Joe Rogan

But it's a scaffolding for ethics and morals that I think shapes society in a way that's not really possible with just anarchy. You need law and order. You need something you believe in. That's what keeps us together. I mean, you could be a brilliant, intelligent person who's just unusually compassionate and live your whole life without religion and still be an excellent contributor to society.