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#2245 - Rod Blagojevich

4301.85 - 4320.955 Rod Blagojevich

So I kept reading and I went to Isaiah and the fiery furnace of affliction and how... Adversity in hard times is God's way of testing us. It can make us stronger and better. We learned through those hard lessons the fiery, you know, through the fire of hard times. And, of course, then eventually the Gospels. And the best story of all, in my mind, as a Christian, is the story of Jesus.

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