#2245 - Rod Blagojevich

3966.758 - 3991.028 Joe Rogan

This is why there has to be checks and balances and there has to be oversight to keep people from their own devices, to keep people from their own horrible instincts that we have as human beings, especially if you've done some shady shit because other people have done some shady shit and that's how everybody sort of worked their way up the ladder and then all of a sudden you get to a position where like, hey, you're going to have to do something that you really don't agree with, but this is how the game is played and then next thing you know...