#2244 - Ryan Graves

10384.207 - 10403.008 Ryan Graves

They don't deny it anymore. I mean, within government, when they communicate, it's clear from the Pentagon to the executive branch to legislative branch that, yes, there are objects. We don't know what they are, and they seem to be exhibiting capabilities beyond the state of the art. I mean, we're at a point in the conversation where that seems to be pretty widely accepted at this point.