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#2225 - Dave Smith

2808.268 - 2829.328 Dave Smith

Ross Ulbricht doesn't... It's not like that. No, no, no. I completely understand. Now, if he were to pardon Snowden, that would be a real signal that he is willing to take on the deep state. He's willing to take on the real powerful entrenched interests. Now, again, I'm not claiming to... It's obviously the right thing to do, morally speaking. But...

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