#2211 - Michael Shellenberger

9809.358 - 9833.368 Joe Rogan

When you've got these guys like, you know, Grush is the best example, but there was another pilot, there was another jet that was with him, multiple witnesses that saw this thing physically. Whatever these things, Brian Graves, when they see these things, what are these? What's the explanation? It's got to be somebody's if it's a real thing. If it's ours, holy shit. What are they doing?