#2211 - Michael Shellenberger

980.17 - 1009.111 Unnamed Speaker

So the threat of populism is that the people actually govern rather than these deep state organizations that have constrained – pre-internet constrained what was acceptable. They narrowed the so-called Overton window. Yeah. With populism, you get potentially populations that say, we don't want to go to war in Ukraine. We don't want to support foreign wars. We don't want to have mass migration.