The Joe Rogan Experience
#2211 - Michael Shellenberger
Joe Rogan
you would think that if if that's here and it is real and there's video footage of it so we know that a real phenomena took place so that means someone it either whether it's here or there's someone out where else can figure that out so now we know that can be done So if that could be done today in 2024, and back then it was 2004, which he encountered that.
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