#2211 - Michael Shellenberger

9190.874 - 9214.584 Joe Rogan

It's quite possible this is not from another planet, that this is some sort of extra-dimensional experience, that these things come from somewhere that's here but not here, and that this is why they've existed forever, and this is why there's no evidence of them, and they come and go as they please, and they're probably a completely different type of thing than what we are, this bizarre carbon-based life form that we are.