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#2211 - Michael Shellenberger

8115.867 - 8133.039 Joe Rogan

Well, they're brilliant people who are finally expressing themselves. And I think that's so huge. And Marc and Chamath and all these folks that are doing that now, it's courageous because if you step out of line with the ideology, with the ideology supports, you get attacked.

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