The Joe Rogan Experience
#2211 - Michael Shellenberger
Joe Rogan
And his perspective is that the super nerds are like more in charge of San Francisco now. And so these sort of mid-level grifters who are into virtue signaling, which is like how you got ahead in a lot of these businesses where you're not really exceptional as a person, but you fit a good quota and you're kind of a DEI hire.
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