#2211 - Michael Shellenberger

8004.705 - 8030.34 Joe Rogan

right where you out there demonizing and yeah that's not the correct response no and so the cops pull back and so you get more black deaths i mean you get cops that are terrified to police yeah yeah you get cops that are demonized you get a terrible morale you get a lot of really bad things and then you get a wake-up call a few years later where people are like we need to refund the police and that's what happened in minnesota that's happening in a lot of places where people are up in arms like our communities