The Joe Rogan Experience
#2211 - Michael Shellenberger
Joe Rogan
So then you get these grifters who their only job is to tell you that everything is racist, and their only job is to berate you and scare you into... You have to give in to whatever their demands are in terms of the numbers of employees that have to be X, Y, or Z, and they develop these very rigid rules that you have to follow. Now, they're in control.
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