#2211 - Michael Shellenberger

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They would teach you, they would teach us how to like push a chair next to the kitchen counter to climb up and get your, make your own food. They had a philosophy that was, if the kid can do it, the kid should do it. As opposed to, now it's like, I think there's just these over-involved parents that are like, oh, I wanna take care of you. And so the kids end up getting coddled.