The Joe Rogan Experience
#2211 - Michael Shellenberger
Unnamed Speaker
But are we arguing that that's a good thing? Well, no. I mean because of course you and I would hate that. We're libertarian. Like we want – we love our choices. I mean because you were saying it's not just that – there's two things that are going on. First, people just – the church didn't explain the world very well.
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