The Joe Rogan Experience
#2211 - Michael Shellenberger
Unnamed Speaker
I mean, literally, he's like – I mean, he's literally a world expert in drugs. Right. And so, I mean, he's just – again, it's like after the Summer of Love, the kids that are, like – I mean, he's a PhD. He's at Columbia. He's one of the best universities in the world. He's obviously somebody that has a huge amount of – self-discipline and be able to delay gratification.
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