#2211 - Michael Shellenberger

6781.358 - 6803.988 Joe Rogan

And for these people that sort of dismiss that and poo poo that and say, oh, Carl Hart just wants to get fucked up. I don't think that's really fair. And I think you have to apply the same ideas of freedom where we have it with speech to especially behavior like drug use where it's not affecting anyone but yourself. And we already have laws that you're not allowed to drive intoxicated.