The Joe Rogan Experience
#2211 - Michael Shellenberger
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And they're very blunt and they're very direct. They cut to the point. They're some of my favorite people in the world because I think they are able to get that balance between freedom – and care and between I mean, but they're also raising their kids different. They're not coddling in the way that we coddle our kids. Right.
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