#2211 - Michael Shellenberger

5781.386 - 5807.626 Joe Rogan

If that hadn't been done, we would have a much greater – if they hadn't been done and if all of these compounds had been pursued under the name of real science and we actually studied them openly and you had the brightest and most brilliant minds running tests and studies and trying to figure out what's going on and what's good and what's not good and what's the right way to take it and what's the wrong way to take it, you wouldn't have the influence of the cartel because you wouldn't have this insane –