#2211 - Michael Shellenberger

5716.624 - 5731.687 Joe Rogan

But they told you this is a great drug for people to overcome timidity. Timidity is a real problem in our culture. We're going to compete with China. They would pathologize timidity for sure. Yeah, I'm not kidding. I'm not kidding. Like you could do that because that's essentially what they did with pain. And that's how they snuck in heroin. But it wasn't heroin. It was synthetic.