The Joe Rogan Experience
#2211 - Michael Shellenberger
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I mean, you have to make a decision as a society because I mean, look, so Carl is right that most people that do opioids or heroin don't become addicted. The people that do become addicted, most of them are able to quit on their own. So only a small percentage of people become so addicted that they die from it. But that's 112,000 deaths a year.
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