The Joe Rogan Experience
#2211 - Michael Shellenberger
Joe Rogan
And oftentimes they combine the Ibogaine experience with another psychedelic, whether it's psilocybin or 5-MeO-DMT or there's a bunch of different ones that they try and all of it has to be done. in other countries. A lot of them, it's done in Mexico because it's illegal in the United States. But I have personally talked to people. I had Sean Ryan on the podcast the other day.
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