The Joe Rogan Experience
#2211 - Michael Shellenberger
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Yeah, I mean, absolutely. I mean, it's such a brilliant system. And I mean, there's this famous, I can't remember if it was Jefferson or somebody who was one of the founding fathers that was like, we need a revolution every, you know, 50 years or something. That's clearly we're overripe for massive reform.
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