#2211 - Michael Shellenberger

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I mean this is actually the subject – you asked me what the new book was and this is what it is. Pathocracy is the new book. Why elites subvert civilization and that's the big question is how is it like that the institutions – and we're taking this concept of iatrogenesis where the classic example is you go to the hospital for some ailment and you end up getting an infection and die.