#2211 - Michael Shellenberger

2488.116 - 2512.129 Joe Rogan

And this is the guy that is a spokesperson. I find spokespeople for science that are arrogant very strange. It's a very strange thing because there's a scientific method, and that's what science is. Science is applying the scientific method and data and trying to find out the truth based on what we know. It's not trust the experts. No. Especially when the experts are severely compromised.