#2211 - Michael Shellenberger

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And what was his position? It's just the same as Peter Hotez and all of these guys. It's very authoritarian. What Fauci and Hotez and Bill Nye call science is not actually science, because science is a process. The way they talk about it is more like- A doctrine. Yeah, exactly. Or in a dictatorship where it's like science is done by scientists. Well, actually, science can be done by anybody.