The Joe Rogan Experience
#2211 - Michael Shellenberger
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You mentioned the Bob Lazar case, and I don't know if it's true or not, but I think the ad hominems, like when you see them using ad hominem character assassination, you're like, well, wait a second. Plenty of dirtbags. um, are right about things. Sure. Many of them worked in the FBI and CIA and the military.
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