The Joe Rogan Experience
#2211 - Michael Shellenberger
Joe Rogan
And if it has been going on for a long time, why would they tell us now? I don't think they would. I think there's a long – if it's real, if it's a real phenomenon that the highest levels of the government are aware of, I think it's been kept under wraps for so long it's almost impossible. It's like a person coming out of the closet. You're 58 years old. I don't want to do it.
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