#2211 - Michael Shellenberger

11354.578 - 11376.735 Joe Rogan

And every now and then you get a little whistleblower, and that guy's a kook. Bob Lazar. Come on. Bob Lazar's a loser. That guy, you really think we'd have him work on our... Oh, he's on the list of the employees at Los Alamos Labs. That's a fucking bullshit. So he knows the inside of Los Alamos Labs by heart. He can walk you around. He knows the security guards. They know him by name.