#2211 - Michael Shellenberger

1130.45 - 1155.97 Unnamed Speaker

I mean, I mean, honestly, I go I mean, I'm careful. I don't want to engage in hyperbole, but I do feel like what we're seeing is totalitarianism, that this is it's not tanks and torture chambers, at least not yet. But the this instinct, this this demand to control the entire information environment, because, of course, it's not the censorship is in service. Of actually propaganda.