#2211 - Michael Shellenberger

11240.58 - 11262.416 Joe Rogan

I know, but this is my whole point. To keep everybody fucking clueless and guessing and keep all the infighting going on, wouldn't you release a bunch of shit that's not necessarily true? I would. If I was really running a secret government UFO retrieval program and we were in contact with extraterrestrials— I would release a bunch of nonsense all the time that makes it look stupid. Oh, I see.