#2211 - Michael Shellenberger

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I don't know. I don't know. All I'm really confident saying is in other words, I'm very much an incrementalist in the sense that like I like my stories to move the ball forward. It's been over a year since I've done a story on this. And I was always like I'm not going to – I'm not somebody that wants to just – I mean on some things I'll write a similar story like a free speech or whatever.