#2210 - Calley Means & Casey Means, MD

7518.079 - 7536.971 Joe Rogan

I didn't think that there was medical capture. I didn't think there was a problem with the NIH before COVID. I had no idea that there was this prevailing issue. I would have been the first person to defend vaccines. I would have been the first person to defend the medical establishment. They're working very hard to create drugs to help people with all these diseases, and we've got problems.