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#2210 - Calley Means & Casey Means, MD

2964.131 - 2980.823 Calley Means

So you had that literal food pyramid, which said ultra-processed food is great, low-fat, carbs, base of the pyramid. That was constructed literally by the cigarette industry to promote their addictive products. And this weaponization of food, as I call it, it's not just like this conspiracy.

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