The Joe Rogan Experience
#2197 - Mike Baker
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Even with NATO support, NATO's been very good, EU's been very good. Without U.S. support, Putin would have Ukraine. So some people could care less about that. OK, it's based on your experiences. Other people think that's a horrible thing. And so I don't know. I'm just saying operationally, you know, if you look at it, you go, OK, our decision is we can't afford to lose Ukraine to Putin.
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