The Joe Rogan Experience
#2197 - Mike Baker
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I look at this from there's a lot of people out there, right? Rightly so. There's a lot of people who dissent with the whole idea of why are we helping Ukraine? I'm not going to wander into that minefield. I'm just looking at it from an operational perspective. If the U.S. wasn't helping Ukraine. Putin would own Ukraine by now, for sure. There's just no two ways about it.
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