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#2190 - Peter Thiel

5834.422 - 5870.805 Peter Thiel

Just to articulate the alternate version on this, there's always a – there's a part – let me think how to get this – you know there's there's one There's a question whether the shift to interiority, is it a complement or a substitute? Like what I said about talk and action, is it a complement or a substitute to changing the outside world? So we focus on changing ourselves.

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