#2080 - John Reeves

4098.332 - 4123.222 Joe Rogan

It's fun. And I think that's part of also the reason why it's successful is that people know, Even though this is on Spotify and there's a massive corporation behind it that distributes it and all that, Spotify leaves me alone. At the end of the line, it's just me and Jamie. I mean, the people that are making this podcast, the people that decide things, Jamie and I, we just have conversations.