The Ezra Klein Show
Yes, Biden’s Green Future Can Still Happen Under Trump
Jigar Shah
So in 2005, Senator Pete Domenici and others said, hey, why do we invent everything here in the United States, but then send our awesome technology overseas? And people realized, well, when you look at the industrial strategy of Germany or Canada or China or other places, they actually support the commercialization of those technologies. And so the loan programs office was born.
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