The Ezra Klein Show
Yes, Biden’s Green Future Can Still Happen Under Trump
Jigar Shah
The second book would be What If We Get It Right by Ayanna Elizabeth Johnson, and she is such an inspiring person. I've had the pleasure to know her for years, and she's really attracted many of the brightest minds in the climate movement to really think through what this looks like and how this can be really a positive world that we're going into.
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