The Ezra Klein Show
Yes, Biden’s Green Future Can Still Happen Under Trump
Jigar Shah
Well, I think we should start by saying that the Department of Energy has approved so many new energy efficiency measures that we're going to continue to have energy efficiency for as far as the eye can see. And I think that's going to play a major role in meeting load growth right now. But the bigger part of load growth is not AI data centers.
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