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Yes, Biden’s Green Future Can Still Happen Under Trump

1200.638 - 1225.078 Jigar Shah

The second is that Solyndra had real technology risk. And we don't take real technology risk anymore at the loan programs office. If we think there's real technology risk, we have our partners at the Department of Energy demonstration programs give them a grant to demonstrate their technology first. And so those two things we do not do anymore at the loan programs office. So we learned our lesson.

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