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The Ezra Klein Show

Democrats are Losing the War for Attention. Badly.

1834.533 - 1850.598 Ezra Klein

No, I think there's that, but, I mean, it's a different story, right? I mean, Pete Hexeth is a different kind of character. I mean, he's an underdog in the thing he's going into now. Than Jim Mattis, for sure. Right? He's, you know, it's more like a soldier who's going to take over and disrupt the thing. Look, I'm not saying it's all planned out.

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