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‘A Sword and a Shield’: How the Supreme Court Supercharged Trump’s Power

357.697 - 375.777 Gillian Metzger

That's true. They may not be exactly the same. And the focus on immunity for the president, I think, allowed the court to think that it could use some broader phrasing than had it really been thinking about the respective authority of Congress and the president in this area, that it might be more willing to acknowledge Congress has more of a role to play here. But I think you're really right.

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