The Ezra Klein Show
‘A Sword and a Shield’: How the Supreme Court Supercharged Trump’s Power
Kate Shaw
We hear the phrase the administrative state a lot. And I think a lot of the time it's used almost as a pejorative, right? Like by people who don't like the administrative state. It sounds maybe kind of ominous, maybe like it's not part of the government. It's like some other thing. So I want to give you a chance to offer a corrective. How do you understand what the administrative state is?
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