The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Hockey Show: Talk Dirty To Me About John Tavares
Fri, 21 Mar 2025
David, Roy, and Ethan are back with a few special guests this week, including Jonathan Zaslow, who joins the gang in the studio. First up is Adnan Virk, who climbs aboard to discuss the vibe around the Maple Leafs in Toronto, the wild race for the Hart Trophy, and whether or not the Washington Capitals and Winnipeg Jets did enough at the trade deadline. Then, David Pagnotta of The Fourth Period joins the crew to discuss the rumblings that have come out of this past week's NHL GM Meetings, including changes to the All-Star Game and playoff formats, cut-resistant protective gear, and why power plays are down so much across the league this year. Finally, the boys wrap up a tough week for the Florida Panthers, and Zas has a hot take on the Aaron Ekblad suspension. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Chapter 1: Who are the hosts and special guests on this episode of The Hockey Show?
Welcome to the Hockey Show. My name is Roy Bellamy. David Dwork is to my left. He works for the Hockey News. Ethan is in the chair over there in the shipping container. Joining us is Jon Zaslow as a guest co-host of ESPN Radio and Zaslow Show 2.0. And also joining us, Adnan Virk from Prime Monday Night Hockey. He's going to join us here for the first segment.
So, Adnan, where were you last week and where are you going this week?
Chapter 2: What is the current vibe around the Maple Leafs in Toronto?
Roy, great to see you and friends. Dave, Zaz, Ethan, good to be back here. My monthly appearance here on the hockey show was just back home in Toronto for the Leafs and the Flames. And I got to tell you guys, everyone's feeling a little tight up there in Toronto. Everyone's getting a little nervous. Hopefully won't win the last six games. Talking to Craig Berube at Morning Skate.
You know, just got to get the puck in there, get going a little bit. And they looked great. Austin Matthews, who has had a precipitous decline, as you guys know, from 69 goals a season to go to 24 entering Monday's play. I know he missed 15 games, but still hasn't been the same guy. If you look back at Bossy, Gretzky, Lemieux, Stamkos, anybody who scores 60-plus,
They don't have that kind of a drop. So it's been concerning. What happens? Matthew scores two. Leafs score three in the power play. I love Ryan Huska, along with Paul Maurice, one of my favorite coaches to talk to. But God, the Flames don't have much offensive talent. Love Nas as well, as we continue right now in Ramadan, one of my few Muslim brothers in the league.
Nas, by the way, was great against the Rangers the next day. Goal and assist. A good win for the Flames. I just don't think the Flames have enough talent, honestly, offensively to compete. And Wolf, who's been such a great story, guys, as you know, he's in the Calder mix, unfortunately got blitzed. It wasn't really his fault, just the Leafs looked really good.
What I want to throw to you guys, though, especially since you mentioned Dave's bona fides with the hockey news, I got to interview Lanny McDonald and Daryl Sittler at the intermission. Now, think about Sittler, 10-point game. And I said to him, you know, when you think back at that moment, that game, what do you think about it? He goes, honestly, I'm shocked no one's broken it. I said, what?
You think someone's going to have a 10-point game? He said, just at some point. Gretzky, Lemieux, Ovechkin, somebody would have done it. So I want to throw out to you guys, first off, do you think anyone will ever break Sittler's 10-point record? Then I got a hockey news thing for Dave in a second. Sittler first. What do you got? No. Ten points in a game? No. I hope not.
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Chapter 3: Will anyone break Sittler's 10-point record in the NHL?
As a goalie, I sure hope not. Good God. By the way, the closest to it, this is crazy. Yager had a seven-point game. Sam Gagne had an eight-point game back in 2012. Shout out to his father, Dave Gagne. Loved him on the North Stars.
Great Panthers like it.
Dave Gagne has some good years for the Panthers. Dave, on the topic of the hockey news, I'm talking to Lanny McDonald. And of course, I'm just staring at the stash. And I said, Lanny, I got to tell you, I said, I read your book, by the way, back when I was like nine years old in 87. I saw the cover of Lanny. And I said, that mustache, you got to tell me about the stash.
And you know, what was the first time that you grew it? And he goes, well, I don't know the first time, but I've had a lot of. lucrative offers to shave it along the way. And I said, I remember I said, I have a hockey news like from years ago. It's literally just your face. And it's like, you know, I have an outline of somebody you could tell who it is.
It was just the mustache and like the bucket helmet. It's so amazing. And he goes, it's my signature mark. I can never get rid of it. It makes me think about guys. Barry Melrose for years at ESPN. I told him, why don't you ever cut the mullet? He goes, I tried to and they told me I couldn't. I said, why? He goes, I was just going to go get a haircut. And I go, I'm tired. It's been 20 years.
Whatever. They go, no, no. That's part of your look. That's your signature. Give me a better signature than Lanny McDonald mustache.
Yeah. I mean, I'm thinking like silhouettes, like Mark Messier comes to mind, like a recognizable.
Jonathan Zaslow in the backwards cap.
Yeah. Well, I'm curious now, how much was he getting offered to shave that mustache? Because, like, at what point do you really have to start considering these offers? Like five figures, six figures? Like, what are we talking here? That's that's the follow up question that I have for Lenny McDonald.
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Chapter 4: Did the Capitals and Jets make enough moves at the trade deadline?
But, Ethan, to your point, Jets. I'm going to watch them again April 7th. And everything I keep saying about them is Halibook's about to win his third Vesna. They've got three great lines, solid defense. I love Morris. I think he's a top-ten defenseman. Shifley, Conner obviously lead the attack. Power play's been a little quiet recently.
And you wonder how important that is come playoff time because, you know, you have to score goals at 5-0-5. You can't just rely on penalties. Less penalties are called in the playoffs. But I think it's a fair point. I was talking to Mark Parrish yesterday on the NHL Network. I'm with Kevin Weeks today. Another former Panther. Both former Panthers. Exactly. Good call, Dave.
If I said, you know, who's coming out of the Central? No one's saying the Jets. Me and Perry boasted the Stars. Demers and Weeks, he said the Avalanche. No one's going like, yeah, Winnipeg's a team to beat. They're going to win the division. And everyone's going, eh, I want to see what Halibut does in the playoffs. He has yet to prove that to me.
Are they like the Toronto of the Western Conference? They can be as good as hell in the regular season, but nobody thinks they're going to do it in the playoffs?
Are they actually the best team in the West? As far as points are concerned. As far as points are concerned, but look how good Colorado looks right now. To me, they're terrifying. McKinnon, McCarr, the way Natchez has been playing since he's gone over there. They've gotten better since they traded Randon, which is an insane thing to say.
And their lines after the trade deadline, you look at them and they're as deep as anybody in the league right now.
And the single best reason to watch the NHL playoffs is going to be that series. Dallas, Colorado. It's maddening to me because either of those teams could be co-favorites to win the Stanley Cup, and one of those two teams is going to be out after the first round.
Amazing. All right, let's get to the video portion of this segment. We have a video of two fans at a Capitals game. From 20 years ago and most recently. So these fans were kids when they showed up to this Capitals game in 2005 with foam eights on their head. And 20 years later, as grown-ass men, they showed up to a Capitals game. Now those foam eights have autographs on them.
And they are celebrating Alexander Ovechkin. Now, Alessandro Veskin scored last night. He now has 888 goals in his career. That's seven away from breaking the record. 888 goals for the grade eight. Is he going to hit 1,000?
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Chapter 5: Why is the Winnipeg Jets' playoff potential being questioned?
If there was anywhere this was going to happen, though, Utah. Yeah. Yeah. communal kind people from what I've been told I haven't been there but seems like a happy place right I don't know correct me if I'm wrong fellas but it seems like this is like Winnipeg maybe all Canada Calgary Edmonton I don't know Adnan would know Canadian geography better than we would
Well, I'll tell you this right now. Here in New Jersey, I can tell you we have an egg shortage. This is unbelievable. I mean, we don't need to get political and to hold terrorists right now. But, guys, we can't even get enough eggs here in New Jersey. Forget about back home in Canada.
And I will tell you, speaking back home to Canadians, there's people, one of my best friends will not buy strawberries. What do you mean? He goes, my local grocery store, it's only from America. I said, that's going too far. A man needs his strawberries.
There was another tweet from that presser, Nick Buckstead, apparently had a comment that... Another former Panther. What's expected by chickens like that? Yeah, Buckstead said to him... about Sokachev's chickens potentially having bird flu. You should check that.
Sokachev said, it's insane.
He disrespected my chickens like that. I still gave him eggs because he said his wife went to the store and there were no eggs.
That is disrespectful to claim that his birds have bird flu.
Right?
Yeah. That's bad.
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Chapter 6: Are NHL players adopting cut-resistant protective gear?
Chapter 7: What were the major topics discussed at the NHL GM Meetings?
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David Pignotta joins us from the fourth period. And the GM meetings has wrapped up this week. And they were talking about league business and whatnot and maybe some rule changes. Maybe not. Who knows? But, yeah, the general managers gathered together in Florida to talk about what's going on in the league. But there was a major issue that came from the Devils GM, Tom Fitzgerald.
His son, Casey, was cut under the chin by a skater. Another form of cancer. Yeah, another phone, Tom Fitzgerald. Huge goal, game 7, 96. Gigantic goal. But his son was slit by a skate in a freak accident. He luckily made it to a medical facility and got stitched up. He is... Okay.
Also, what happened with the Canadians and the Senators, Josh Anderson was wearing cut-proof socks, and the back of his leg got slit. Luckily, the socks saved him. Shane Pinto, as you can see in this video, right there. That could have been career ending. That was right there.
Didn't that happen to Huberto a few years ago?
Yeah, in a preseason game.
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